what about obama's smile? >> well he had a couple of real smiles when he won a couple of points, when he was talking about obama care and he smoothly went into the points. he gave real smiles. but most of the smiles were in irritation to things he thought romney were saying were absolutely ridiculous. like you have no idea how hard this job is was the smile he was giving romney. >> so eventually it ended. let's talk about the hugs and the hand shakes at the end. what did you see there? >> remember we talked about obama being in control at the beginning. that's the primacy effect. there's a recency effect that occurs at the end of the debate the last thing viewers remember. it was very interesting. romney didn't want to leave the stage. he kept staying. he wanted to be the last visual we had. he revelled in it. obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end. did he seem to be hunched over a little bit? >> he did. >> very interesting. >> again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well. and there